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Friday, May 26, 2006

Feedpass con job or RSS readers' salvation ?


I'm not joking..
Every blogger / site author out there producing RSS feed , be it XML/RSS1/RSS2 or Smartfeed , now have another thing to worry about besides spamblogs and copycats lifting their work and content form their sites and spoofing new crapped up clones.

Meet Feedpass ..
Those of you, who like me have turned to Feedburner for their syndication needs, would be pretty familar to what's goin on when we look at Feedpass. But there's this added twist that makes this site somewhat...interesting, and has been generating a lot of online interest.

Here's a dummy's summary of what the whole story is about.


Average Joe makes site.
Average Joe's got lotsa updates.
Average Joe gets smart and makes an RSS feed for avid readers.
Average Joe sits back happily and continues publishing work/content.
Average Joe becomes big time web guy for his field,
enjoying high traffic and loadsa returning visitors.

Enter: Feedpass

Dick registers for Feedpass.
Dick registers Average Joe's RSS feed as his own. (because thats the way the company works!)
Dick enjoys small income from Average Joe's feed.(1/3 the income from all google adsense income from the feed landing / starting page)

Average Joe doesn't notice shit.
*end of story, now go to bed darlings..*


I think even the least tech savvy people out there would get what is going on.
Essentially , Dick is collaborating with Feedpass in using someone else's content to create a brand spanking new RSS landing page available for public viewing.
Dick earns 1/3 of all Google Adsense ads placed on that new RSS feed page, 2/3 goes to Feedpass.
Average Joe gets zero.

That's dumb. *Paris Hilton style*

But there's a solution.
The new feed is Dick's until the owner (Average Joe) comes to 'Claim' it from Feedpass.
After which, Average Joe starts getting 2/3 of the aforesaid Google Adsense income, with 1/3 going to feedpass, and 0/3 for Dick.

How?
Average Joe has to register, search for and 'claim' his feed by changing his original site title or original feed title to a random 'letters + numbers' code generated by Feedpass temporarily to confirm it as his.

Average Joe, Dick and Feedpass then go on with their lives.

That's only one side of the coin.
You see, most people reading this right now may not know all that much about RSS besides the fact that they're all over the place, on every other site you see.
The more observant (and highly intelligent cult of the fox members) would notice the little RSS feed bookmark at the end of their URL space at the top of Mozilla's Firefox.

Screenshot:



It's everywhere these days, and serves a purpose to people like me who fancy reading stuff from all over the placewithout having to find the site, or worse..finding the URL from my Bookmarks.
(Given 1 more year, i could use my bookmarks as a search engine by itself. It's that populated..)

To the ordinary user (read: small kids) , they may not have that much of a use for RSS, nor need be concerned. It'll be just another cute orange button.

But for those who are curious about those cute lil orange buttons, Feedpass provides the perfect page for them.
It's so TOTALLY designed for people with little or no knowledge of RSS feeds and the googol of options available to them in terms of method of receiving and viewing these feeds.
The page contains links to subscribe to a feed by e-mail, RSS aggregator / reader sites, browser plug-in and social bookmark tools.
It's like the ultimate starting point for anyone who knows as much about RSS as they do about life.




So, the important question.
HOW DOES THIS AFFECT ME / MY BLOG / SITE / RSS FEED ?

Easy.
Go to Feedpass and check who's got your feed (if you syndicate one that is)
If your feed is there and someone's holding it,
you can either choose to:

a. claim it as yours, because , duh., it's your content being repackaged like some lousy black market Petaling Street goods.
(even if you know your blog doesn't generate sufficiently significant traffic to generate any Google Adsense income.)

b. ignore because you can't be bothered.
(Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery for you and that shit site you set up in a day is barely updated so you couldn't give a rat's @$S. Whatever..)


If you DON'T have a feed for your site/blog for whatever reason, you can choose either Feedpass or Feedburner (for Blogger sites, you should select 'Publish Site Feed' in your Settings>Site Feed.)
Those not using Blogger can look for auto RSS Feed making sites as another low tech way of doin things.

--UPDATE--

In response to a question by a friend,
no, Feedpass doesn't apparently make feeds for your site / blog.
You need to find any site out there that makes feeds for your site.


If you're some problogger (in which case you probably know more than me) and have your own special domain like ,say, www.lingghezhi.com
(man, someday..someday..) ,
You need to find any site out there that makes feeds for your site.
Or you could try lookin for this software i saw that was similar to Typepad..
But then again, you probably know that already.





Links:

Feedpass

Feedburner
My Feedpass feed (http://www.feedpass.com/lingghezhiblogspot)
My Feedburner Smartfeed (http://feeds.feedburner.com/lingghezhi)
Techcrunch (Michael Arrington-Feedpass does absolutely nothing)
Mashable

Mark Evans (Feedpass:Vultures!)
Libraryclips (Feedpass : RSS landing page)
Interview with Rick Klau of Feedburner
thesocialsoftwareweblog (feedpass makes RSS easy)
What is RSS ? (Wikipedia)

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12 Comments:

  • At 9:44 PM, Blogger Serge Norguard said…

    well now a Blogathon is a day when bloggers gather to blog for 24 hours. We post every half an hour about everything and anything under the sun, for the charity that we have chosen.

     
  • At 9:48 PM, Blogger lingghezhi said…

    ooh..thanx! :)

    i shall dig around for more info..

     
  • At 5:16 PM, Blogger _butt said…

    Thanks for sharin' such informative post, dude!

     
  • At 11:09 PM, Blogger lingghezhi said…

    no prob:)

     
  • At 3:13 PM, Anonymous Crux said…

    That's no different than mobsters collecting "protection money". You need to let them have 1/3 of Adsense income, just so they'll allow you to use an RSS feed that's yours? That's pure blackmail. I don't know too much about how RSS feeds work, but that was my general impression from the whole situation.

    However, in this relatively-lawless world of the Internet..there's really nothing much you could do.

     
  • At 9:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

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  • At 12:05 AM, Blogger metromon said…

  • At 8:00 AM, Anonymous Feedpass said…

    lingghezhi,

    You've got it all wrong and I believe a retraction is in order. Take a look at any Feedpass page and you'll notice that it only displays story titles and very brief excerpts.

    http://www.feedpass.com/ksl
    http://www.feedpass.com/engadget

    The entire purpose of Feedpass is to make subscribing to RSS easier for users without requiring you, as the content owner, to create your own help pages, worry about keeping all the RSS readers, email tools, etc. on the page, and so on.

    Yes, we do let anyone create a Feedpass page, but that doesn't keep people away from your content. Instead, Feedpass actually pushes people TO your original content. The person who links to your content using a Feedpass does stand a chance to earn a few bucks for recommending your blog, but the Feedpass page is FAR from a substitute for reading your content...and is nothing like an RSS reader, etc. In fact, the previews that we provide are no different than what you'll find all over the web from services like Technorati, Google, Feedster, CNet, and many, many more. The practice of showing titles and excerpts is widely used and widely accepted online today. Many of these sites even benefit by advertising on the pages. No different than Feedpass. Feedpass actually lets the content owner benefit from the Google AdSense views as well, even on Feedpass pages created by others. As long as the Feedpass page points to your content, you can benefit simply by providing us with your Google AdSense ID and claiming your blog.

    Your writeup is an example of the loose "journalism" that plagues the internet today. You clearly don't understand the tool and didn't research it effectively before posting. Look again and hopefully you'll see Feedpass for what it is, the best RSS subscription landing page on the internet today.

    Feedpass

     
  • At 11:18 AM, Blogger lingghezhi said…

    metromon please f*** off. Or i'll get people to screw those sites of yours.

     
  • At 1:33 PM, Blogger lingghezhi said…

    Dear Feedpass

    I've never done retractions and don't plan to unless i was truly wrong or offended a friend. As I interpret it, my article doesn't say anything that isn't true. If it does,you should say so clearly, not pull off a sales stunt in my comments.The title is a question,not a statement. But as they say, if the cap fits, wear it. (siapa yang makan cili dia yang rasa pedas)

    Btw, yes, I've seen your feedpass page.I've seen a many of your feedpass pages.I know what they look like. Yes, I've seen those 2 feedpass pages of engadget and ksl.

    I even bothered to watch the video on your site showing how you took engadget feed and made a feedpass page off it.

    [quote]The entire purpose of Feedpass is to make subscribing to RSS easier for users without requiring you, as the content owner, to create your own help pages, worry about keeping all the RSS readers, email tools, etc. on the page, and so on.[/quote]-Feedpass

    ok.
    What difference in terms of content is your statement from this:

    [quote]
    But for those who are curious about those cute lil orange buttons, Feedpass provides the perfect page for them.
    It's so TOTALLY designed for people with little or no knowledge of RSS feeds and the googol of options available to them in terms of method of receiving and viewing these feeds.
    The page contains links to subscribe to a feed by e-mail, RSS aggregator / reader sites, browser plug-in and social bookmark tools.
    It's like the ultimate starting point for anyone who knows as much about RSS as they do about life.[/quote]-lingghezhi(Feedpass:con job or RSS readers' salvation ?)

    I never said Feedpass is gonna take away readers.And for it to PUSH people to content, that feedpass page would have to be lucky enough to be on one seriously popular site like slashdot or the like for it to be of any significant use.You never mentioned whether the same feed can be made into more than 1 feedpass page by different people, and i didnt try either, so safely assuming you can't, then the benefits of feedpass are mutually exclusive. If someone popular makes a page from my feed, it'll drive traffic, but i won't be able to make that 2/3 google cash cuz i don't own the page. And if I owned the feed, why would anyone use my feedpass page to link to me when they could easily link to my site or article directly.
    For me to actually have both benefits, i'd somehow have to have a popular person's(note:singular) site like the feedpass blog link to my feedpass page in their blog post. Even then, wouldn't that just pump up the ranking of my feedpass page compared to my actual blog? How or why would anyone want their feedpass page to be higher up in ranks when people run a search on google looking for the original content, in which there probably already are google ads supplying 3/3 of it's income from views AND clicks?

    Also, i never even implied, what more said that feedpass could substitute actual content. I certainly didn't say your site is lucky enough to be the ONLY site running feeds consisting of titles and profiting from it. It's widely used, widely accepted, and hey, it's a good thing because people actually go searching on those sites for feeds that match whatever they typed in the search box, with regards to context and field. I'd like to ask why people can't do that on your site by searching for 'intelectual blogs' and get my feedpass page and subsequently see my recent post titles? If you did that, people might actually find your site to have some other use besides all that www.feedpass.com and lingghezhi.blogspot stated.

    You've openly admitted to letting people make a buck off another's feed, but state this is noble because they're recommending that person's blog. I'd appreciate it if you shared how this is so in more detail as about a few million people and I would certainly love to know how to use that as webmasters.

    I'm not finished yet.

    [quote]Your writeup is an example of the loose "journalism" that plagues the internet today. You clearly don't understand the tool and didn't research it effectively before posting. Look again and hopefully you'll see Feedpass for what it is, the best RSS subscription landing page on the internet today.[/quote]-Feedpass


    You are offending me, my blog, my writing skills, my research, my effort, my thinking process, my intelligence, my reader's intelligence, my friends' intelligence and even my act of advertsing your services.
    You clearly don't understand that a personal blog means i write my opinions, my friends opinions and generally what i think when i see something, which is basically my article which you so conveniently put down as "loose journalism that plagues the internet."


    I'M not making money from strangers' content and RSS feeds am i?.

    Do i take McChicken burgers and resell 'em on a roadside stall at 2/3 the price with a big sign saying "Try McDonald's.It's good." ?

    YOU clearly didn't research my article effectively as you missed the fact that i even bothered to advertise your services as 'the perfect page for people with little or no knowledge of RSS feed options.' Maybe you missed it cuz it was covered by last month's google adsense pay cheque stuck on your monitor.

    Instead, oblivious to that, you insult and foul my blog with cheap sales phrases like "..see Feedpass for what it is, the best RSS subscription landing page on the internet today." when actually i bothered to show both sides of the coin to my friends and readers. A coin you didn't turn over to look at the side that actually benefits you.

    YOU owe me an apology and a public request to me to remove your offensive comment. YOU owe my friends an apology for insulting them. YOU owe me gratitude for bothering to advertise your service.

    I looked again at www.feedpass.com.
    It still looks the same.
    It still starts with a form for people to fill in anyone's RSS feed.
    It still plagues the rights of people who if were not informed by me, would never know if people were making money from their content because they didn't know what services Feedpass provides till i told them so. People who may be now over at your site generating traffic and ad income for you.


    Thank you for your comment.
    lingghezhi

     
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